I was waiting until the 2020's were released in August to get the upgraded 82 hp motor. The XT-P was the best option for my kids and I, they could rip the trails and I could use it to haul into my hunting camp. It always boils down to suspension and tires and tires are the easy part. I had it narrowed down to the Ranger or the Defender and I think stock the Ranger has better suspension?? Now I have read that there are suspension updates on the 2020 Defender but it's really hard to find any info yet. It was the XT-P with the Fox shocks that made the decision easy but it looks like I'm back to the drawing board.